willard: you did stumble, you know
and made three posts in one
it's not a sin to post incomplete posts
me: yes, it meanders a bit, you are right
willard: more than a bit
we're talking about a 300-400% inflation!
me: I need to write fewer pieces like that and polish them better
me: well, a thread runs through it
and it did kick off this last bout of the coven starting a conversation wherein they refuse to sensibly account for themselves
I wonder why they bother
willard: a thread runs through your life
that Czech novel, what was it called...
Unbearable Lightness of Being
he says each life has its motifs
willard: that rings a bell
me: patterns that keep coming back in a life the way they repeat themselves in a building
me: did you see Kloor's latest?
willard: i never read Keith
i only read Gilligan
me: Gilligan is good
but Keith is bizarre
willard: not at all
not for me
me: he says he doesn't want to talk about it and then keeps bringing it up
willard: it's a ringtone
willard: keith knows how to set up a feisty mood
you are not
he steps back and looks
you jump into fights
me: I need to stop that
more so that it kills your brand
you even react to Tom
you saw me calling him a meme machine?
willard: Tom is an easy pick for me
he usually goes away from where i enter
me: he is such a phony.
willard: he's good at what he does
me: which is to keep me away from Kloor's?
willard: but he's fluff
to spot memes
he learns his lines
and then he repeats them
here is a skeptic blog
let's go tell them about green stuff
oh look, a warmist blog, let's try hockeysticks
behind his character
there is a loyalty to the contrarians
he took the whip away from jeff id at Bart's
he derails you
willard: the trick is that what he says has no importance whatsoever
it's what he does that counts
me: I need to write a defullerator plugin if I am going to take on Kloor
willard: just ask yourself what he's doing
greasemonkey can do that
why take on Kloor?
me: that is a good question
willard: Keith is mocking you and your kind
just let him be
you have more to provide than a fight with keith
willard: love saves lots of time
me: but he will probably provide publicity when I go live
willard: there is a pragmatic problem with all this
me: this is the problem. I like them, Kloor, Fleck, Yulsman, Revkin
They are part of the problem but they are also role models
they make a living thinking about the big problems
I like them. I admire them. And I hate it when they screw up.
It makes me scream.
willard: they don't think about big problems
they think about staging
willard: they stage scenes
me: yes, "set pieces"
"In film production, a setpiece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money. The term setpiece is often used more broadly to describe any important dramatic or comedic highpoint in a film or story, particularly those that provide some kind of dramatic payoff, resolution, or transition."
me: they tell "stories"
I want them to relentlessly tell *the* story
willard: in any case
there is a pragmatic problem with all of this
there is no conversation
only conversation about conversation
well said indeed sir!
you justify the whole conversation about conversation about conversation thereby... (oddly)
willard: the basic argument is this:
1, look at person X
2. X is speaking about p
3. p is not what we should talk about
so everyone is arguing about what we should talk about
after it gets personal
everyone is arguing about how we should talk
willard: then someone says: why are we talking about that?
then comes another blog post
me: and another day passes, and the lemmings get that much closer to the precipice
willard: a miraculous leap in evolution
to sit and talk about talking, without really talking much
everyone getting frustrated, cynical, powerless
the conversation with Keith is portrayed like a fight, whereas it's a race
you are showing yourself
junior, fleck, gilligan, keith
when we think fight, it gets polarized
when we think debate, it gets how it should be
you all have an interesting voice
some more congenial to me than others
it's a contest where you are sales-pitching your voice
of course, a fight is good for the blood
but too much fight is bad
as what matters is the race
The only thing we can be sure of about the future is that it will be absolutely fantastic. So if what I say now seems to you to be very reasonable, then I have failed completely. Only if what I tell you appears absolutely unbelievable, have we any chance of visualizing the future as it really will happen.
- Arthur C. Clarke (h/t Brin)