tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post5254263735372884982..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: TopicsMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-4710578303969782892011-01-12T19:10:50.198-08:002011-01-12T19:10:50.198-08:00MT says:
"And instead of any of that I spent ...MT says:<br />"And instead of any of that I spent Sunday trying to strike up a conversation at Curry's. If you want to see <b>our problem up close</b>, check out the thread."<br /><br />One of "our problems" is the enormous lack of support for you, or other scientists, like Colose, Lacis, etc that show up there. It's impossible for a scientist to make their point if the next several commenters, whose ideas are already hardened, paint the scientist as a biased activist. You made a great point about scientist's duel role remaining a reticent referee, as well as a reporter of risk. I especially liked the comment about scientists staying silent. Instead of that being discussed, you were made out to look duplicitous. I think it would be nice for the people who agree with MT to say so. There's already enough back and ass slapping over there to rival a Major League dugout. What's a little more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-15833843230249611032011-01-12T12:40:15.158-08:002011-01-12T12:40:15.158-08:00Curry thinks Schneider and his website were at Ber...Curry thinks Schneider and his website were at Berkeley huh? And I'm then supposed to waste any more time reading on? Yeah, Berkeley, Stanford, Scripps, Davis, whatever it's all the same.Jim Bouldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10062200124702011010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-45500501766173267542011-01-11T15:21:01.799-08:002011-01-11T15:21:01.799-08:00I had a look at the thread at Curry's. It was...I had a look at the thread at Curry's. It was disturbing how many people think that saying "Everyone else does it so we should to" and "Its impossible to change course" and "we don't even know if there is a problem" are somehow rational arguments.guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-50124281892613301802011-01-11T04:04:15.778-08:002011-01-11T04:04:15.778-08:00"trying to strike up a conversation at Curry&..."trying to strike up a conversation at Curry's."<br /><br /><b>Conversations:</b> Are overrated.<br /><br />I agree with <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/dont_politicize_this_tragedy.php#comment-3092744" rel="nofollow">a certain commenter</a> at <em>Pharyngula</em>: (emphasis mine)<br /><br />"I am so tired of people saying that this [Loughner's shooting spree] will 'start a conversation' about toning down the rhetoric. <b>It seems like having conversations is all we do nowadays. I'm sick to death of it.</b> What I really want isn't a conversation, I want Obama to instruct the Justice Department to start putting together charges against Sarah Palin for whatever they can come up with. What we need is a good test case that can create some law defining the responsibilities of those who speak in public. And if Palin can be successfully prosecuted, then go after Limbaugh, and then go after Ailes. I just can't believe that what these people do is legal."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-46212644652477770132011-01-10T13:41:36.795-08:002011-01-10T13:41:36.795-08:00You're probably already aware of this, but you...You're probably already aware of this, but your RC article was boingboinged today. (http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/10/climatologists-pick.html#comments) - You may want to react to some of the comments, perhaps.CHansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358915374108506919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-78083894454256407012011-01-10T13:05:19.179-08:002011-01-10T13:05:19.179-08:00> we evolved to play primate dominance games ov...> we evolved to play primate dominance games over solving problems<br /><br />OK; but that one's partly soluble, so let's not play primate dominance games about it.<br />:-)<br /><br />Namely, soluble by engaging in interesting cooperative games against a common non-human foe; such as (for us ancient, creaky board game types) Pandemic.<br /><br />It's a very good way for habitually-oppositional folk to experience working together as problem-solving colleagues.<br /><br />Also see talks by Jane McGonigal on games, and another one (Tom Chatfield?) likewise, at TED.com; not sure I 100% agree, but the idea of being able to harness those game energies is compelling.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-31421480023101182832011-01-10T05:55:27.432-08:002011-01-10T05:55:27.432-08:00Economics:
Perhaps instead of speaking of 'we...<b>Economics:</b><br /><br />Perhaps instead of speaking of 'wealth creation', we should be speaking of wealth <em>unlocking</em>. Discovering oil in some plot of land in Texas doesn't 'create' oil, it merely unlocks the oil that's been there all along. And one can't 'create' oil from nothingness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-53877082517447304622011-01-09T17:23:47.147-08:002011-01-09T17:23:47.147-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-69973641115477760012011-01-09T14:34:15.308-08:002011-01-09T14:34:15.308-08:00Maybe I should repeat my earlier comment?Maybe I should repeat my earlier comment?David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-51803009216272394092011-01-09T13:11:41.378-08:002011-01-09T13:11:41.378-08:00But never the pattern that you're a part of, K...But never the pattern that you're a part of, Keith.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-32580500079802780512011-01-09T12:45:51.909-08:002011-01-09T12:45:51.909-08:00Speaking of economics, there appears to be a bit o...Speaking of economics, there appears to be a bit of a kerfuffle surrounding our anti-authoritarian friend Richard Tol.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2011/01/our-deluded-esri/" rel="nofollow">Village Article: Our Deluded ESRI</a><br /><br /><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2011/01/tolgate.php" rel="nofollow">Deltoid: Tolgate</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-28048052784273161022011-01-08T18:09:39.865-08:002011-01-08T18:09:39.865-08:00Revkin's related post preceded yours and was a...Revkin's related post preceded yours and was aimed at Romm. Same with Tom Yulsman's first post on this topic.<br /><br />My post played off theirs but included yours at RC to discuss the pattern that I've raised.<br />--KKloorUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05818642659325983463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-4233907202609728352011-01-08T18:06:54.625-08:002011-01-08T18:06:54.625-08:00Before you speak, ask yourself if what you have to...<i>Before you speak, ask yourself if what you have to say will improve on silence.</i>David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-30391682601722280542011-01-08T17:39:43.479-08:002011-01-08T17:39:43.479-08:00Not agreeing with them but some of this is Nature ...Not agreeing with them but some of this is Nature killing itself. I believe we evolved to play primate dominance games over solving problems.Marion Delgadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493068399042656060noreply@blogger.com