tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post542037992691079614..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: Troubled TransitionMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-33237065502151930432009-11-08T10:00:55.341-08:002009-11-08T10:00:55.341-08:00Michael,
I just tried posting a comment but I bel...Michael,<br /><br />I just tried posting a comment but I believe a technical glitch might have erased it after I hit the send button.<br /><br />If it went through, then you should delete this as it says the same thing.<br /><br />So I'm afraid Hank doesn't get the joke, when I ask sarcastically in my post if Michael is now a "delayer." Can't a guy have some fun with a throw-away line at the end of a post?<br /><br />Anyway, I'm on record as a big fan of Michael's, and it is my hope that the points he makes in this particular post are debated, rather than the EPA's action.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05818642659325983463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-8402267826672392462009-11-07T04:10:11.598-08:002009-11-07T04:10:11.598-08:00I only just now read this. Of course you need acti...I only just now read this. Of course you need action like this thing just described (that I never heard of). Just as you need other sorts of actions from the bottom-up and the top-down. It all matters, and none of it solves much in and of itself but all together gives y you resilience. Which is the point.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-13114943474742346652009-11-06T08:23:19.544-08:002009-11-06T08:23:19.544-08:00Hank,
Geeze if I'm the best example going yo...Hank, <br /><br />Geeze if I'm the best example going you'd think I could make a living at it... sigh... <br /><br />But many, many thanks for the kind words just the same.<br /><br />I also enjoyed the story though I didn't quite see how it was apropos to anything. But I did have occasion to pass it along to an old friend who is suffering from an excess of onionosity at the moment.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-3139025226407902842009-11-06T08:01:46.483-08:002009-11-06T08:01:46.483-08:00> Sacred Demise
Head asplode: http://www.tor.co...> Sacred Demise<br />Head asplode: http://www.tor.com/images/stories/stories/Swirsky/MemoryOfWind/full_Swirsky_Weber_410_435.jpg<br /><br />Michael, thank you.<br /><br />You've had the right practice clear for years. You're the best example going of understanding the situation with both passion and compassion.<br /><br />Tangentially related, have you ever read this short story? The recent Romm/Wossname kafoodle reminded me of this:<br /><br />http://arthursclassicnovels.com/arthurs/sheckley/conion10.htmlHank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-26914132172813413622009-11-06T06:39:19.316-08:002009-11-06T06:39:19.316-08:00Also:
http://transitionnetworknews.wordpress.com/...Also: <br />http://transitionnetworknews.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/a-transition-food-strategy/<br /><br />"We have created this monster of a food system that shamelessly puts profits ahead of the needs of people and the planet. But the reality is delicious nourishing food grows naturally from the earth and is a fundamental human right and need."<br /><br />I'm not sure whether I should be getting as ansty as I do about this kind of thing - maybe it doesn't matter, if people are doing good things. I just find the lack of acknowledgement of what larger-scale economics (in terms of distance as well as size) has done a little galling.Dolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17110810881843699172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-59239835714659065082009-11-06T06:35:25.819-08:002009-11-06T06:35:25.819-08:00The transition way of thinking mirrors much of the...The transition way of thinking mirrors much of the analysis in academia that I come into contact with - it can be *very* crudely black and white: market / large-scale / 'productivist' = BAD and local / co-operative / 'interpersonal' = GOOD. The "good" tends to come under the heading of 'alternative food networks' in the literature - and it has an allergy to any sort of economic thinking. Economics, it seems, is merely one of the Masters Tools, and the master's tools will never dismantle... etc. <br /><br />Let's presume for a moment that Dr. Baker is correct: it could only be through chance, because (and this is a presumption on my part) I can't imagine it's based on actually analysing how people are going to eat without economies of scale in food production.<br /><br />That said, such questions are now appearing in academic thinking in the UK; I'm going to a seminar at the end of this month -<br /><br />http://www.le.ac.uk/geography/research/seminar_bradshaw_GET.html<br /><br />p.s. yay, got through a whole post without linking to my own blog like some kind of blogwhore!Dolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17110810881843699172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-76745626481576484302009-11-05T18:59:41.566-08:002009-11-05T18:59:41.566-08:00I don't have much to add to this conversation,...I don't have much to add to this conversation, but as one who has flirted with (and still does to an extent) both survivalism and hippiedom, the worst of the transition town ethos seems like the unholy child of a marriage between these two lifestyles.<br /><br />I'm just not ready to give up and head out to the Wind River range in my truck camper.King of the Roadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841601144107400103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-24122770339072067682009-11-05T16:42:27.696-08:002009-11-05T16:42:27.696-08:00By which I mean we should prepare for the worst wh...By which I mean we should prepare for the worst whilst giving it our best shot with all we've got to try and head off that "worst" happeningNick Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05360924308743466075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-91473360881150588842009-11-05T16:38:55.266-08:002009-11-05T16:38:55.266-08:00I admire the Transition town movement but I think ...I admire the Transition town movement but I think a better approach to potential catastrophes coming our way is "NEVER SAY DIE!Nick Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05360924308743466075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-77597828029762121722009-11-05T10:49:18.790-08:002009-11-05T10:49:18.790-08:00``I have written my book “Sacred Demise: Walking T...``I have written my book “Sacred Demise: Walking The Spiritual Path of Industrial Civilization’s Collapse”''<br /><br />Oh, my, I thought at first that was an obscure joke that was partially escaping me, not an actual quote from Dr. Baker!<br /><br />"Q. E. as we mathematicians say D."<br /><br />Yes, indeed.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-63020298427181225312009-11-05T10:43:39.472-08:002009-11-05T10:43:39.472-08:00Well said. Your reply was not "overheated&qu...Well said. Your reply was not "overheated". It was just right.Richttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00677573041684027902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-82653858148633651412009-11-05T10:27:50.876-08:002009-11-05T10:27:50.876-08:00I can't be bothered to register for yet anothe...I can't be bothered to register for yet another site, so I'll post my wisecrack here:<br /><br />``I have written my book “Sacred Demise: Walking The Spiritual Path of Industrial Civilization’s Collapse”''<br /><br />Q. E. as we mathematicians say D.Victor Eijkhouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16138767293102164713noreply@blogger.com