tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post6181776572274329835..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: Engagement Is Not About DebateMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-53431853430858356592010-06-17T00:41:37.412-07:002010-06-17T00:41:37.412-07:00For many venues, those apply to "us." Ho...For many venues, those apply to "us." However, Juan Cole is exactly right about the way the part of the world I'm in works now:<br /><br />http://www.juancole.com/2010/06/big-oils-predations-are-not-your-fault.html<br /><br />In a cynical and sociopathic environment where real power is highly concentrated and discussions and negotiations are largely charades and stalling, they don't apply.<br /><br />People have to be minimally on your side to be worth discussing anything with. Also, I rarely see actual thoughts being expressed, because in general they're hand-me-downs from the era of Bircher pamphleting.<br /><br />WV: gredi :)Marion Delgadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493068399042656060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-11788849872880769022010-06-16T07:59:48.753-07:002010-06-16T07:59:48.753-07:00Interesting, but let's not go that way. I disa...Interesting, but let's not go that way. I disagree with Lazar on some characterizations. The idea is amusing, but not really productive. <br /><br />Note that there is an important distinction between disengagement and ignoring. There is little point in talking to Morano, e.g., but it's foolish to ignore him.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-84911257003207885712010-06-16T07:48:59.029-07:002010-06-16T07:48:59.029-07:00Chip Knappenberger 1)
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...Chip Knappenberger 1)<br />JeffID 1)<br />John Van Vliet 1)<br />Jonathan Carrick 1)<br />Roger Pielke Jr. mainly 2) some 3)<br />Lucia Liljegren similar portions 2) and 3)<br />Steve McIntyre 3)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-82918514288997582622010-06-15T15:43:24.162-07:002010-06-15T15:43:24.162-07:00But engaging with (challenging?) Type 3's can ...But engaging with (challenging?) Type 3's can be useful if one can use them foils to advance arguments for the benefit of the lurkers out there.Deech56https://www.blogger.com/profile/01075060714218498521noreply@blogger.com