tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post8805806728836986238..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: Unbelievably Random ThreadMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-31155468325183470982011-04-09T13:50:40.643-07:002011-04-09T13:50:40.643-07:00Ray Pierrehumbert sends along a reminder of Sheep ...Ray Pierrehumbert sends along a reminder of <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/the-sheep-albedo-feedbacki/" rel="nofollow">Sheep Albedo Feedback</a> from RC. Thanks, Ray!Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-14306802954318000972011-04-08T12:19:49.523-07:002011-04-08T12:19:49.523-07:00Actually, yes, you have a point. It is one of the ...Actually, yes, you have a point. It is one of the ways the playing field is tilted against the establishment in informal communication. <br /><br />In fact one of the people you cite once said something very funny to me about one of his opponents. I asked for permission to quote him, but didn't get it.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-2540380883047230052011-04-08T12:04:07.541-07:002011-04-08T12:04:07.541-07:00I didn't assert that you have no sense of humo...I didn't assert that you have no sense of humor. The point I was trying to make, I guess one of your readers got, is that you're not allowed to be funny. In particular, certain types of humor are strictly off limits. The NOAA employees for example who got a hand slap for engaging in a little cartoonery. <br />The point isnt that nobody who believes in AGW can't be funny about somethings, in some ways and in some places. The point is rather something like this, that certain people on the AGW side are prevented from directly fighting back with humor. Sure their proxies can. But they directly can't. That leads to a certain perception of them as being humorless.<br /><br />The other thing is the role humor plays in carrying the message. yes, we have cartoons and some poor attempts at written humor, but the AGW message can't be carried by humor. Since a good portion of the skeptical message is personal attack on people, that message can and is carried by humor.<br /><br />Sorry if I wasnt clearer. Let me get very specific. mann, gavin, jones, trenberth, santer, ARE NOT ALLOWED to be funny, whereas those who attack them are allowed to be funny.<br /><br />is that clearer?<br /><br />As way of background the discussion started when somebody asked me a while back why Mann didnt fight back against the Minnesota Skeptics satirical videos with satire of his own. My first reaction was well, he's not funny. But I don't know him. He very well may be funny, But in some sense he is trapped in role that doesnt allow him to be funny.<br /><br />make sense?stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06920897530071011399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-80457602886133740982011-04-06T21:33:49.726-07:002011-04-06T21:33:49.726-07:00Böögg Bang drives global climate change
(h/t Chri...<a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1104.0061" rel="nofollow">Böögg Bang drives global climate change</a><br /><br />(h/t Chris Colose on the RC open thread)seamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04299590041498402002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-81263443675850314692011-04-06T15:49:17.832-07:002011-04-06T15:49:17.832-07:00Yes, indeed. That is why I am looking for a gossip...Yes, indeed. That is why I am looking for a gossip columnist, to cover this nonsense.<br /><br />Henceforth, you can tell when I don't take matters seriously when I bold everybody's name. This is pure entertainment. Note too that it is an attempt at a comedy thread.<br /><br />Not a very good one so far... Best laid plans and all that...Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-50827013431161199402011-04-06T15:47:05.935-07:002011-04-06T15:47:05.935-07:00It doesn't seem as she's interested in goi...It doesn't seem as she's interested in going forward or finding anything new, it's just rhetorical positioning, sort of like a game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-91242369715861389162011-04-06T15:36:58.931-07:002011-04-06T15:36:58.931-07:00It's not the credibility or lack thereof invol...It's not the credibility or lack thereof involved in her giving you a hard time, Michael, it's you paying attention to her when she does it. What's the point? So that informed readers will visit her blog and relearn the lesson that her blog isn't worth visiting? <br /><br />You want to be a journalist? This stuff is gossip column material.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-67609858878355365032011-04-06T12:57:02.835-07:002011-04-06T12:57:02.835-07:00Oh, come on, Steve, that's silly. Lucia is giv...Oh, come on, Steve, that's silly. Lucia is giving me a hard time over nothing and producing a horrendous and revealing botch of a discussion in the process. Providing a link to that mess hardly constitutes sucking up.<br /><br />Give me some credit.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-77726824250828167312011-04-06T12:05:22.966-07:002011-04-06T12:05:22.966-07:00"Owing" Lucia anything seems peculiar. ..."Owing" Lucia anything seems peculiar. Coming on the heels of the posts kittycatizing RP Jr. and Kloor, it starts to seem like you're just spinning your intellectual wheels, Michael. I'm down with the goal of improving communication skills, but oddly you seem most interested in communicating with those whose positions aren't going to change no matter what you say to them. What have you learned from all of this engagement with the Insufficient Light side?Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-74500740836968530922011-04-06T10:26:36.762-07:002011-04-06T10:26:36.762-07:00ok; but (changing the topic) a terminology quibble...ok; but (changing the topic) a terminology quibble - IMO asking someone twice, over a week apart, when the first time they'd indicated time constraints were the problem, doesn't constitute "hassling".<br /><br />YMMV.<br />(but I do confess to cluelessness from not having read JC's comment all the way through, before asking the 2nd time. For that, my bad, & apologies.)Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-80649702983853697312011-04-06T09:21:26.748-07:002011-04-06T09:21:26.748-07:00Anna, that is pretty off topic for this blog at be...Anna, that is pretty off topic for this blog at best. Muckraking (or, perhaps, mudslinging) is not my thing. Please take it elsewhere.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-15222791239537457772011-04-06T04:46:37.577-07:002011-04-06T04:46:37.577-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-71201708151899192912011-04-06T03:19:40.287-07:002011-04-06T03:19:40.287-07:00(I feel lucky that in real life, few people go out...(I feel lucky that in real life, few people go out of their way to try to pick fights.)Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-10320525231951860472011-04-06T03:17:57.971-07:002011-04-06T03:17:57.971-07:00Ah, Lucia. She devoted a blogpost to me last fall...Ah, Lucia. She devoted a blogpost to me last fall, that elicited some odd, dark commentary; but later when I wanted to post a "for more information go here" comment on that thread, she wasn't willing to re-open it to allow me. And wasn't willing to take down the caricature of me, either, when I asked. ("Josh" had done it from a photo, but I asked to see the photo, he couldn't seem to provide it.)<br /><br />I avoid that neck of the blogosphere; IMO its denizens don't act in good faith.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-9603111522567571452011-04-06T02:45:17.747-07:002011-04-06T02:45:17.747-07:00rustneversleeps,
I suspect that Really Silly Stupd...rustneversleeps,<br />I suspect that Really Silly Stupd Climate is a parody of DeSoggy Bog, which is supposed to be a parody of DeSmogBlog.Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-34986364624841830612011-04-05T20:52:38.124-07:002011-04-05T20:52:38.124-07:00Some of Peter Sinclair's videos are pretty fun...Some of Peter Sinclair's videos are pretty funny (in my view). And that BBC video about Monckton that recently came out, "Meet The Skeptics", had some really hilarious moments. Monckton singing "The Elements" leading in to a stock musical rendition of "The Major-General's Song" (which is the same tune) was perfect - the lyrics at that point:<br /><br />"I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,<br /> I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,<br /> About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,<br /> With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.<br /><br /> I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;<br /> I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:<br /> In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,<br /> I am the very model of a modern Major-General. "<br /><br />capture Monckton's pomposity perfectly. But of course this is all very much a matter of taste :)Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06249922708053689717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-57898643711591266892011-04-05T20:44:24.379-07:002011-04-05T20:44:24.379-07:00Paul, they don't have to be laugh out loud. B...Paul, they don't have to be laugh out loud. But Dr Inferno does that for me.<br /><br />We do need a chance to let off steam - and all of those listed do that. I suppose that's where your 'in-group' humour comment is coming from. Humour doesn't have to be universal all the time, just look at people who know all about a sport laughing at some clanger or other. Most of us have no idea why such a thing is funny. <br /><br />Humorous moments for people committed to science are often pretty grim omg reactions to yet another idiocy emanating from predictable sources. It's a relief when someone sets out to be amusing - and succeeds.adeladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019930864931919369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-1935564490922093492011-04-05T20:02:30.971-07:002011-04-05T20:02:30.971-07:00See, my reaction was more like watching someone si...See, my reaction was more like watching someone sink a nice basket. It was no <a href="http://xkcd.com/149/" rel="nofollow">149</a>, but a good effort. <i>De gustibus</i>, again. About the only thing I can think of that's <i>more</i> subjective and personal than what makes you laugh is what makes you horny.<br /><br />I'm not saying this to dissuade you from your funny-hunt, mind you... it's just that I'm having a reaction to the earnest debate over at Lucia's and Mosh's statement that warmists are "<a href="http://rankexploits.com/musings/2011/heartland-backlist/#comment-72899" rel="nofollow">not allowed</a>" to be funny.<br /><br />Probably the most trustworthy indication of a true sense of humor is the ability to laugh at oneself. I think we all take ourselves a little too seriously at times, especially during these interweb contretempseses.Paul Daniel Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633446166342778475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-45818033593714267682011-04-05T19:34:34.571-07:002011-04-05T19:34:34.571-07:00PDA, xkcd 880 was a real rofl for me, actually. It...PDA, <a href="http://xkcd.org/880/" rel="nofollow">xkcd 880</a> was a real rofl for me, actually. It's wearing a bit thin for the wife already, though. <br /><br />All, individual articles from non climate geeks (parse as you wish) and cartoons would be good too.<br /><br />I will admit I've not seen a seriously funny climate-good-guy video, and although obnoxious as hell the Minnesotans for Global Warming stuff was good for a chuckle. Anyone still giving Michael Mann shit, though, really ought to hope these is no hell.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-51284797120270935822011-04-05T19:02:05.879-07:002011-04-05T19:02:05.879-07:00I know it sounds curmudgeonly, but in-group humor ...I know it sounds curmudgeonly, but in-group humor just <b>isn't all that funny</b>. Even reading xkcd which is my own in-group humor (before it got lame, I mean), I wouldn't laugh out loud... the reaction is more sort of an intellectual one, a frisson of recognition if you will.<br /><br />Like I told Lucia, <i>de gustibus non est disputandum</i>, but I don't think there are any Woody Allens or Robin Williamses on either side of the climate debate.<br /><br />It's in no way a critique. I hear the nuclear safety experts have crappy comedy blogs too.Paul Daniel Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17633446166342778475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-8162243454362653802011-04-05T18:12:06.684-07:002011-04-05T18:12:06.684-07:00I think it comes down to a close laugh-off between...I think it comes down to a close laugh-off between the uproariously hilarious<br /><br /><a href="http://www.desoggybog.com" rel="nofollow">DeSoggy Bog</a><br /><br />and<br /><br /><a href="http://reallysillystupidclimate.blogspot.com/2009/11/co2-will-destroy-universe.html" rel="nofollow">Really Silly Stupid Climate</a><br /><br />Rolling on the floor laughing and soiling my ass off!!!! Especially DeSoggy Bog! It's SOOOO funny!!! Yet subtle and witty at the same time!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-14053750547356155562011-04-05T16:34:09.377-07:002011-04-05T16:34:09.377-07:00http://wottsupwiththat.com/http://wottsupwiththat.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com