tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post1586831656486308057..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: Hansen BookMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-38304793077873510682009-12-05T06:38:25.371-08:002009-12-05T06:38:25.371-08:00I'm a little late to the party here, but
6p0...I'm a little late to the party here, but <br /><br />6p00d8341c5caf53ef said about the 'sweaty testimony'<br /><br />is another lie from LowWattage that was disseminated a couple weeks ago. It is false. Hansen never made that prediction to Congress. It was an interview placed next to the testimony to conflate the two and make a lie out of the guilt by association.<br /><br />Just pointing out the source of lies in the denialosphere. <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />DUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08191155460701692880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-42299907503920216702009-12-05T03:33:42.372-08:002009-12-05T03:33:42.372-08:00Antiquated Tory:
My apologies.
But I still think...Antiquated Tory:<br /><br />My apologies.<br /><br />But I still think that there's nothing wrong with talking about "saving humanity" if the catastrophe involves massive food and water crises. It's not a "the world goes kaboom!" type of disaster, but it's definitely serious enough to warrant the label of "threat to humanity".<br /><br />-- <a href="http://frankbi.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">bi</a>bi -- International Journal of Inactivismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03030282249404084578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-15736605867116687562009-12-03T09:38:03.645-08:002009-12-03T09:38:03.645-08:00Steve:
Thanks for pointing out the oft-overlooked...Steve:<br /><br />Thanks for pointing out the oft-overlooked consequences of climate change.<br /><br />Horatio would just add that your observations are actually encompassed by Hansen's title:<br /><br />"Last chance to save [<i>our</i>] humanity"<br /><br />The latter interpretation is also entirely consistent with the main title, where "storms" is interpreted figuratively as social upheaval: famine, "floods" of refugees, resource wars etc.<br /><br />The Pentagon is actually quite concerned about the national security implications from such social upheaval brought on by climate change, concerned enough to <a href="http://www.edf.org/documents/3566_AbruptClimateChange.pdf" rel="nofollow">commission a study</a>.Horatio Algeranonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12988805467080448954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-36875836544456802782009-11-27T05:43:04.212-08:002009-11-27T05:43:04.212-08:00Steve,
Thanks, and fair enough. We could well los...Steve, <br />Thanks, and fair enough. We could well lose our collective minds and start pumping SOx into the stratosphere a la Superfreaks, or something equally desperate. Though I think the most likely response is a draconian "state of emergency" among even the most liberal states, trying to ration out increasingly scarce resources, manage vast emergency civil engineering projects, and keep a lid on civil unrest. Which would be kind of amusing given certain septics' current blatherings about UN world government conspiracy, environmental neo-Bolshevism, etc. But that's thin consolation.<br />bi,<br />Hey, I'm a fan of the IJoI. And I'd certainly at least open the book and see if I wanted to read it if it were in a bookshop. I do know better than to judge a book by its cover publicity.<br />I guess I know that the public thinks now in terms of 2012/Jerry Bruckheimer disasters, and if the catastrophe you're warning against isn't on that scale, why care? I've had this conversation.<br />Friend: All this warning about how global warming is going to destroy all life is nonsense. The planet has been far hotter than in the past. And anyway, the planet is cooling. Blah blah blah.<br />Me: No one is really suggesting seriously that all life will end. It's polemic to get people to do something. What will happen is a lot of ecosphere destruction, probable food crises, and extreme economic crisis, but probably not until sometime after 2100. And the planet is not cooling.<br />Friend: Well, what's the problem then? We'll just adapt. And I'll be dead by then, anyway.Antiquated Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727187247287268014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-69375484842041866902009-11-27T01:37:47.746-08:002009-11-27T01:37:47.746-08:00Is that the James Hansen who made all those, er, &...Is that the James Hansen who made all those, er, 'sweaty' predictions to Congress 20-odd years ago. I don't think, on the whole, that I would bet the deeds of my house on anything he had to say!<br /><br />David Duff<br />http://duffandnonsense.typepad.com/<br /><br />Michael, I do wish you would do something about your 'Open ID' which keeps issuing me with what looks like a prison number!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-32640268240815490142009-11-26T11:15:38.606-08:002009-11-26T11:15:38.606-08:00AT, an aspect of the problem that's seldom dis...AT, an aspect of the problem that's seldom discussed is the human social response to severe environmental crisis. Climate change itself is unlikely to be so severe as to even threaten civilization, let alone humanity, but what we do to ourselves (and the ecosphere) as a consequence of the strains is a different story. Recall Fermi's Paradox.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-62380839860076619502009-11-26T05:17:32.261-08:002009-11-26T05:17:32.261-08:00Indeed; how dare James Hansen even think about wri...Indeed; how <em>dare</em> James Hansen even <em>think</em> about writing a book and -- Heaven forbid -- selling it! How dare he!<br /><br />And notice how many times the word "freedom" occurs in Al Gore's blurb? Zero? <em>Zero?</em> Enough said.<br /><br />-- <a href="http://frankbi.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">bi</a>bi -- International Journal of Inactivismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03030282249404084578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-55294922897484979572009-11-25T15:59:05.133-08:002009-11-25T15:59:05.133-08:00"Last chance to save humanity?" That'..."Last chance to save humanity?" That's a bit drastic, no? But I guess "Last chance to save the prosperity that we've been building since the Black Death. Oh, and to save a bunch of ecosystems." wouldn't sell as many books.Antiquated Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08727187247287268014noreply@blogger.com