tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post2535596125221689075..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: sans entertainment, nobody cares about jellyfish swarmsMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-86960073013131948532009-02-19T13:44:00.000-08:002009-02-19T13:44:00.000-08:00> http://www.apocadocs.comGood (ouch! wince!) s...> http://www.apocadocs.com<BR/><BR/>Good (ouch! wince!) site.<BR/>You know Dano, and Bi, and Eli, I trust?<BR/><BR/>Word verification:<BR/>"blattic"<BR/><BR/>Not bad, not bad, maybe there's hope for distributed AI yet ...Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-87544468802181783452009-02-13T17:26:00.000-08:002009-02-13T17:26:00.000-08:00> oceansGood find. Direct link:http://globalpu...> oceans<BR/><BR/>Good find. Direct link:<BR/>http://globalpublicmedia.com/transcripts/255<BR/><BR/>"... Generally it takes about 10-15 years from the discovery of a fish population of large fish, for it to be reduced by a factor of 10 and less to a smaller amount. But the factor of 10 within 10-15 years! And so we have in a sense, set up a machine which from the center which was in North America, Northern Europe especially, and in the North Pacific around Japan, the first industrialized country, spreads like concentric rings. We can show this, in fact, in the form of graphs. Spreads like a ring, and it reduced the biomass of fish by a factor of 10 within about 10 years.<BR/><BR/>The book shows this for the North Atlantic, from the ‘50s to the present. We show maps, what we call biomass, the amount of fish anytime in the sea, is shown to decline. All our analysis is very conservative so every time there was a choice of assumptions, we made the more conservative assumptions so we don’t exaggerate. So we ended up with a decline of a factor by 6 from the beginning of the 20th Century to the end, that we reduced the biomass by a factor of six. Actually, it’s far more ...."Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-70961885507232139402009-02-08T11:50:00.000-08:002009-02-08T11:50:00.000-08:00Hope is a good thing. Hope is what we have. It i...Hope is a good thing. <BR/>Hope is what we have. It is perfectly possible for us to avoid the worst effects of global warming, at the same time as fixing quite a few other problems.<BR/>I am completely hopeful that we could do so.<BR/><BR/>But people don't seem to like change forced on them by circumstances, and too many people will lose some of their position of power if these changes are carried out. Power is the important thing, and in advocating something other than the status quo we run directly into the current power holders. The danger will be it becoming a struggle between current power holders and those who hope to gain power by changing things.guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-44438490151389941652009-02-07T17:14:00.000-08:002009-02-07T17:14:00.000-08:00Hey, y'all are first in my blogroll, now, thanks t...Hey, y'all are first in my blogroll, now, thanks to the alphabet and all.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-66659308768125149672009-02-07T17:04:00.000-08:002009-02-07T17:04:00.000-08:00Dano -- thanks so much for the link to Desdemona D...Dano -- thanks so much for the link to Desdemona Despair! <BR/><BR/>We hadn't run across it -- lots of great overlap (if you'd call it "great.")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-50987266627195620542009-02-07T16:37:00.000-08:002009-02-07T16:37:00.000-08:00Thanks for the link, MT. "Getting people to pay at...Thanks for the link, MT. <BR/><BR/>"Getting people to pay attention to the bad news" is exactly what we're striving to do. I don't know if what we're doing is the best way, but it's the only successful way we've devised, at least for me and Jim, the two authors of apocadocs.com.<BR/><BR/>We need *lots* more people out there mobilizing, alerting, talking this stuff up. It's not just the heat, it's the effing *humidity*.<BR/><BR/>'Doc MichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-26455484642007857372009-02-07T15:57:00.000-08:002009-02-07T15:57:00.000-08:00I appreciate guthrie's lament, but sadly the fract...I appreciate guthrie's lament, but sadly the fraction of the populace that shares this fascination is not large enough to carry an election. That's how it is, and the GF and I have this conversation about every two weeks. Nonetheless,<BR/><BR/>One can also read Desdemona Despair for the same news without the Grist-type humor, just the facts, ma'am. <BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-7407173743277831052009-02-07T15:55:00.000-08:002009-02-07T15:55:00.000-08:00In the current climate, only losers are interested...In the current climate, only losers are interested in the real world.<BR/>You get successful in life by being successful in human relations by knowing how to play humans.<BR/>Style and buzz matters, not content.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-67097681054766664642009-02-07T15:14:00.000-08:002009-02-07T15:14:00.000-08:00I'm with you on this one, Guthrie.On the other han...I'm with you on this one, Guthrie.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, people want hope, not gloom. I don't think candy coated gloom helps. I think there has to be a best or at least least-awful way out of here and we have to find it.<BR/><BR/>Part of that has to be getting people to pay attention to the bad news.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-50363502602413843972009-02-07T14:06:00.000-08:002009-02-07T14:06:00.000-08:00Whatever happened to being interested in the world...Whatever happened to being interested in the world because it is intrinsically interesting? Am I such a mutant that I read about lots of topics, and want to know how things work and what affects our life on this planet? <BR/><BR/>As for scientists, I think a common thread amongst most of them of my acquaintance (I did a chemistry degree) do have this interest, and we have great fun discussing how we found something out, and what other people have found out about how things work.<BR/><BR/>From this mindset it is very hard to see how you have to make anything entertaining, since the world is intrinsically entertaining to a great many of us, no effort necessary to package it with whatever sales tactics are popular today.guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.com