tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post7388320557306321268..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: More Outsiders Getting It RightMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-25045883752287655662010-03-01T03:59:52.512-08:002010-03-01T03:59:52.512-08:00One of the things that keeps occurring to me as I ...One of the things that keeps occurring to me as I read your posts is the need to "influence the influencers."<br /><br />When it comes to changing public opinion, it's hard to do it with a fire hose. But if you identify the people whose skeptical opinions are newsworthy to the masses of disbelievers, maybe you (as in the scientific community) can have a series of conversations with <b>them</b>. Or at least some of them.<br /><br />And include the science press.BarbDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498804902517349785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-7210347293080308632010-02-28T14:29:04.398-08:002010-02-28T14:29:04.398-08:00RE Michael:
Sometimes you can't even determi...RE Michael: <br /><br /><i>Sometimes you can't even determine who the PI is! It's like having no information at all, only irritating!</i><br /><br /> That's exactly it. So many times I've been presented with an article in the popular press and want to at least go back to the abstract (not wanting to assume that a given poster or the journalist got the information right).<br /><br />And then it ends up being a sleuthing operation. Find a mention of the author, go to his or her web site, find out that the author has several recent papers that are similar enough and then try to figure out which one is it.<br /><br />Fortunately scientist-bloggers do link to the actual manuscript. Note that some bloggers *cough* Watts *cough* refuse to quote from the actual article if it's behind a paywall, and will instead base a whole post on the someone's interpretation of the publication. Incredible. All those fans and they cannot spring for subscriptions to <i>Science</i> and <i>Nature</i> (let alone pay for data).Deech56https://www.blogger.com/profile/01075060714218498521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-6000152218169033902010-02-28T12:39:16.134-08:002010-02-28T12:39:16.134-08:00We really should make science more open. Too many...We really should make science more open. Too many important papers lie behind paywalls, alas.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05789761931551673481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-32654599802269182712010-02-28T11:24:10.291-08:002010-02-28T11:24:10.291-08:00Deech,
Yes, the PRESUMPTION of the press that I d...Deech,<br /><br />Yes, the PRESUMPTION of the press that I don't want to follow up by looking at the original publication is, well, I don't have an adjective for it that captures totally contemptible and extremely comtemptuous at the same time. Let me settle for, yeah, why don't they do that?<br /><br />Sometimes you can't even determine who the PI is! It's like having no information at all, only irritating!Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-81002236886401743612010-02-28T11:07:55.227-08:002010-02-28T11:07:55.227-08:00Juan Cole's words are of particular interest, ...Juan Cole's words are of particular interest, since he is an academic in a subject (Middle Eastern Studies) that is in the public. He's also attracted his share of brickbats over the years. My pet peeve is the lack of a link in press releases or articles that cover published work. That might make it easier for reporters to find, oh, say, the corresponding author of the study.Deech56https://www.blogger.com/profile/01075060714218498521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-41905925893108093782010-02-27T16:59:33.073-08:002010-02-27T16:59:33.073-08:00I agree with Mr. Cole. But then the media has to ...I agree with Mr. Cole. But then the media has to move beyond its standard list of contacts. Too much good work (from Eli, Donner, MT, Lambert, Connelley and etc) kind of dies in the blogosphere. Yet Pielke Jr. is quoted once again.bigcitylibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081538803991095825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-26173162758063923312010-02-27T16:02:08.894-08:002010-02-27T16:02:08.894-08:00Ok, how to we drum up more supporters like that?
...Ok, how to we drum up more supporters like that?<br /><br />[Word verification suggests "refully".]David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.com