tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post8199400181981554643..comments2023-09-28T08:13:11.489-07:00Comments on Only In It For The Gold: A Disappointment from e360 Egregiously SpunMichael Tobishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-79959081959118658302011-07-27T08:24:51.623-07:002011-07-27T08:24:51.623-07:00The point of "rolling a thirteen" is tha...The point of "rolling a thirteen" is that "loading the dice" is not a precise analogy at all. <br /><br />It is quite possible to have events that would be impossible without anthropogenic climate disruption. Greenhouse gases are not the only culprit (land use is part of it, as described <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/126085248.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, but I think dew points of 31 C in Minnesota would be an example. <br /><br />It is quite likely that until recently this has never happened since the drastically different climates of the Eocene, though it would be hard to prove.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-32808266842016288602011-07-27T06:36:13.313-07:002011-07-27T06:36:13.313-07:00On a side issue can I just point out that it is im...On a side issue can I just point out that it is impossible to through a 13 even with a pair of loaded dice. This is important because it is also impossible to have a "13" type weather event. Climate change can only produce extreme versions of droughts, flooding, hurricanes, etc. <br /><br />This means we will never have the evidence of global warming that will satisfy the sceptics. It's about time that scientists stopped saying that this or that event dose not prove that AGW is happening, and point out that these events are the best evidence we are going to get.Alastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15152292130415788120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-23553000308770152332011-07-26T06:03:30.708-07:002011-07-26T06:03:30.708-07:00Eli prefers measuring Monckton for the hacking. I...Eli prefers measuring Monckton for the hacking. It fits his personality and he has the money and connections for it. Of course, this is merely idle speculation at this point.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-66668014868535286532011-07-25T22:22:53.235-07:002011-07-25T22:22:53.235-07:00I like my experts expert. But then I'm a poin...I like my experts expert. But then I'm a pointy-headed liberal.<br /><br />Recent studies point out that the more facts you bombard an ideologue with, the more they dig in.<br /><br />Sad and desperately so.<br /><br />Northwest passage almost open (OT).<br /><br />wv: What exactly is untecise? Could it be what Dr. Curry is? Is is possible to unearn a doctorate by stubbornly refusing to realize what one does not know? (I know, not, but more fun to think about that than the consequences of collective idiocy multiplied by money and corruption.)<br /><br />More OT: There's a noise going about on the likely unprovable case that Murdoch org. is not unconnected with the CRU hack.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829151452002682271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-78715456879864748812011-07-25T19:43:50.326-07:002011-07-25T19:43:50.326-07:00I think e-360 needs to read this about the BBC'...I think e-360 needs to read this about the BBC's own study (from here: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14218989)<br /><br />"it found that, where there was consensus on scientific matters, providing an opposite view without consideration of "due weight" could lead to a "false balance".<br /><br />This meant viewers "might perceive an issue to be more controversial than it actually is".<br /><br />Prof Jones cited issues including global warming, MMR vaccines and GM foods.<br /><br />He said the BBC "still gives space" to global warming sceptics "to make statements that are not supported by the facts".<br /><br />He added that, for years, "the climate change deniers have been marginal to the scientific debate but somehow they continued to find a place on the airwaves".Dan Satterfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17103428750040230969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-89857299493366319162011-07-25T19:40:02.527-07:002011-07-25T19:40:02.527-07:00E360 is unhappy with Eli's commenting on their...E360 is unhappy with Eli's commenting on their iconography of Matt Nisbet.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-51617971330518459792011-07-25T10:40:32.877-07:002011-07-25T10:40:32.877-07:00And +1 to Moe, with the proviso?caveat? that I too...And +1 to Moe, with the proviso?caveat? that I too have resorted to "I have to think about how I answer that"... esp. for stuff I haven't thought out, & where my interests lie elsewhere.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-35760516582219690382011-07-25T10:37:27.930-07:002011-07-25T10:37:27.930-07:00+1 Steve Bloom. E360's an odd duck.+1 Steve Bloom. E360's an odd duck.Anna Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176850465809297298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-3438336870557660852011-07-24T21:56:30.904-07:002011-07-24T21:56:30.904-07:00A bit harsh, Pango. You can't win them all.
...A bit harsh, Pango. You can't win them all. <br /><br />This is a question that a lot of journalists and activists on both sides are handling badly. We just have one more episode to add to the pile. I expect better from e360, but I've seen worse elsewhere too.<br /><br />I'm far more disappointed by Cote's take on the recycling. Reading other things by him he generally seems reasonable, but he mangled this one beyond recognition.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-35249099768042615732011-07-24T21:02:27.478-07:002011-07-24T21:02:27.478-07:00You have to wonder what inspires Yale to allow suc...You have to wonder what inspires Yale to allow such a failure of scientific reporting to be published under it's .edu umbrella. At what is purported to be one of the most prestigious universities in the world this is an example of science journalism so bad that it looks like a deliberate fault. <br /><br />Cui bono? Not the truth; but perhaps somebodies career ambitions.Pangolinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18369503994505817789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-3775053933596981602011-07-24T19:07:15.558-07:002011-07-24T19:07:15.558-07:00Sad thing is, Doctor Tobis, I liked your recent po...Sad thing is, Doctor Tobis, I liked your recent posts--up to this one.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-21793548009955051072011-07-24T17:39:22.706-07:002011-07-24T17:39:22.706-07:00In general, I'll take ten of my comments over ...In general, I'll take ten of my comments over a hundred of Curry's or Watts's any day of the week.<br /><br />There are exceptions, though. No more flames from either party, please.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-20079906368862447592011-07-24T17:16:07.122-07:002011-07-24T17:16:07.122-07:00Don't flatter yourself, Bloom. You're not ...Don't flatter yourself, Bloom. You're not even worth trolling. And this site, with what--74 comments on all the posts on the front page?<br /><br />I don't consider myself a troll, of course, but if I were, I'd at least go somewhere with traffic.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-36104284416888464052011-07-24T15:53:20.665-07:002011-07-24T15:53:20.665-07:00Kindly just delete the troll comment, Michael.Kindly just delete the troll comment, Michael.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-36283330184970082732011-07-24T15:41:22.211-07:002011-07-24T15:41:22.211-07:00So now you've adopted Romm's trick of lett...So now you've adopted Romm's trick of letting somebody else do your slime jobs for you.<br /><br />You're learning, but you're learning the wrong lesson. <br /><br />But it's still the same slime.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747117922597525042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-30244668220548289512011-07-24T15:12:47.070-07:002011-07-24T15:12:47.070-07:00It's hardly the first time for this at e360. ...It's hardly the first time for this at e360. After all, Curry and RP Jr. are right there in the center along with journalists. Just ask Revkin.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524070301101240472.post-29480503525385844272011-07-24T15:12:37.383-07:002011-07-24T15:12:37.383-07:00Please link to the most worthy commenter.
On the ...Please link to the most worthy commenter.<br /><br />On the denialist/contrarian side, any motivated determined turd can rise to the top. Not so on the side of sanity. But on our side, at least we have clear writing and clear thinking. How the denialists/contrarians hesitate to give answer to novel facts and argument. How quickly the side of sanity can always respond. When you are fearless about where the facts will lead, you can give sensible analysis immediately. (On the political side, think about how prolific and quick Glenn Greenwald is.)<br /><br />It is a tell: "I have to think about how I answer that... I will be away from my computer for a few days..." Only one side must habitually pow-wow before responding, if they give adequate response at all.<br /><br />So comments like the one you pulled out are the reward and solace for those on the side of sanity.manuel moe ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04878149837118503541noreply@blogger.com