"System change is now inevitable. Either because we do something about it, or because we will be hit by climate change. '...

"We need to develop economic models that are fit for purpose. The current economic frameworks, the ones that dominate our governments, these frameworks... the current economic frameworks, the neoclassical, the market frameworks, can deal with small changes. It can tell you the difference, if a sock company puts up the price of socks, what the demand for socks will be. It cannot tell you about the sorts of system level changes we are talking about here. We would not use an understanding of laminar flow in fluid dynamics to understand turbulent flow. So why is it we are using marginal economics, small incremental change economics, to understand system level changes?"

Monday, August 16, 2010

UAH Temps Remain Extraordinary




See for yourself here

Per BCL's request, here are 1998, 1999, 2009 and 2010, (colored respectively RGBO) near surface temps, so you can distinguish particular years of interest. I am not sure what caveats are needed. This is not considered a primary GMST dataset, but I don't know why. Any help on this one would be appreciated. I've been looking at this graph evolve for months; it seems to be telling a scarier story than GISS or Hadley does.

You can click on the images for a clearer picture.

6 comments:

Dion said...

Your link does not work.

Michael Tobis said...

Fixed. Thanks.

bigcitylib said...

This is the graph that only has 1998 data from about July forward, right? So we can't really compare the beginning of the year?

Michael Tobis said...

Correct. We have a tiny overlap now.

Greg said...

Michael,
A lot of people (I think I've seen comments about this at RC, Tamino's, and Romm's) think the daily UAH plot has a flaw in the processing. It's hot, but not that hot. Maybe the RSS folks will figure it out for us.

Steve Bloom said...

IIRC Spencer has explained on his blog why the UAH graph needs corrections, although the usual caveat lector applies to everything he says.

But I notice that there's what looks to be a rather larger-scale debate about the sat data going on, initiated by some new players. I'm really curious to know what RSS thinks about this.