"System change is now inevitable. Either because we do something about it, or because we will be hit by climate change. '...

"We need to develop economic models that are fit for purpose. The current economic frameworks, the ones that dominate our governments, these frameworks... the current economic frameworks, the neoclassical, the market frameworks, can deal with small changes. It can tell you the difference, if a sock company puts up the price of socks, what the demand for socks will be. It cannot tell you about the sorts of system level changes we are talking about here. We would not use an understanding of laminar flow in fluid dynamics to understand turbulent flow. So why is it we are using marginal economics, small incremental change economics, to understand system level changes?"

Sunday, March 13, 2016

No point arguing with me

I'm just stubborn


4 comments:

coby said...

Yes, that was a pretty quintessential dialogue, wasn't it? Stewart is not usually that grumpy, but that is what he thinks of the issue. He seemed reachable when I first engaged him (in person) on this topic.

If only you and I were more open to such persuasive argument...

Windchasers said...

Awww.

They always were going to have trouble when the "pause" ended. They'll be eagerly awaiting the next one. #NoPauseSince2016

Mal Adapted said...

Coby: "Stewart is not usually that grumpy, but that is what he thinks of the issue. He seemed reachable when I first engaged him (in person) on this topic."

Has anyone who starts with a position like Stewart does in the initial tweet, ever shown actual willingness to be persuaded otherwise?

coby said...

I have had two people over the years, who initially displayed all the usual WUWT fan boy characteristics, tell me in private correspondence that they had been persuaded that the problem is real and anthropogenic. Considering the total numbers, it is probably not statistically distinguishable from zero.

But really, we should all be doing it for the lurkers, right? I never expect to, nor emotionally invest in swaying any particular individual I choose to debatie with, it is all about setting the record straight and persuading the audience.