"System change is now inevitable. Either because we do something about it, or because we will be hit by climate change. '...

"We need to develop economic models that are fit for purpose. The current economic frameworks, the ones that dominate our governments, these frameworks... the current economic frameworks, the neoclassical, the market frameworks, can deal with small changes. It can tell you the difference, if a sock company puts up the price of socks, what the demand for socks will be. It cannot tell you about the sorts of system level changes we are talking about here. We would not use an understanding of laminar flow in fluid dynamics to understand turbulent flow. So why is it we are using marginal economics, small incremental change economics, to understand system level changes?"

Thursday, December 27, 2007

Bipartisan Congressional Participation in Science Debate!

Chris and Sheril continue to do great work in reminding us how democracy is supposed to work.

Congressman Vern Ehlers, R-MI, and congressman Rush Holt, D-NJ, have agreed to co-chair the non-partisan initiative, called ScienceDebate2008.com, whose signers also include fourteen Nobel laureates, several university presidents, other congresspersons of both parties, the president of the Academy of Evangelical Scientists and Ethicists, and the heads of several of America's major science organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

These congressmen are apparently "also scientists" whatever that might mean. Anyway it's great news!

More at Intersection and at the ScienceDebate site.


John Mashey said...

Holt: PhD physics NYU

Ehlers, PhD Physics UC Berkeley:

Both have had interesting careers.

I once attended a small party for Steve Westly (exec at eBay, but by then California State Controller, i.e.,, CFO of one of the world's larger economies).

He said words to the effect: "Sacramento isn't Silicon Valley. Please, government desperately needs more of you people with technical backgrounds."

Karen said...

Bravo!!! Its about time given that many of the core issues that need to be addressed in order to bring about necessary policy changes MUST be based on real science. As Bill McKibben stated so succinctly " The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to yield"